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Senator Floyd Prozanski. Provable, Certified Liar.
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Kevin Starrett
No doubt by now many of you have received an email
(or possibly a snail mail) from Senator Floyd Prozanski attacking
me personally (again).
In large part a rehash of a
similar attack he sent some months ago, this message has
some new accusations that require a response.
While I will attempt to address them point by point, I would
like to start with one issue that needs to be put to rest because
some people seem to believe there is some truth to it.
Prozanski has in the past, and again in his latest email, accused
me of using a doctored photo of him in an email alert. In his
latest attack on me he even included a link to the photo which
appeared on someone else's website,
"Ammoland." In his email he says the following;
"As clearly indicated by its web address, the altered
photograph was posted on ammoland.com. The posting, titled "Anti-Gun
Oregon Senator Prozanski, Cuckoo or Crazy Like a Fox," was contributed
by and credited to OFF" .
To set the record straight here are the facts. "Ammoland",
like many other pro gun sites and chat boards, often reproduces
OFF alerts. (Type "Prozanski" in the search
field. ) People, from firearms instructor Jim Jacobe to nationally
known gun writer David Codrea, either reproduce or post links
to our legislative alerts. We do not ask for this to be done,
nor do we require permission that it be done.
In this case,
"Ammoland" apparently included the altered photo
of Prozanski when they reproduced our alert. (An unaltered
photo appears there now.) Let's be clear and unequivocal.
The altered photo was NEVER posted on our site, was not created,
approved, suggested or even seen by us before Ammoland posted
our alert. In short, myself, OFF and everyone associated with
OFF had nothing to do with this photo of Prozanski. He is quite
simply lying about it. He has been informed we had nothing to
do with it but continues to lie about it. In his most recent
attack he states "Although he took down the image the
day after I pointed it out, Kevin failed to realize that it
would be retained on the World Wide Web."
Here is a news flash for you Floyd, that photo never
appeared on our website, and if it had, we would not have taken
it down because of anything a lying coward like you said. Furthermore,
it was not "contributed" by us and if it was "credited"
to us, prove it. Your claim that it appeared on our website
is a bald faced lie. The assertion that we in some way
"provided" this photo is too. Quite frankly Floyd,
you do a fine job making yourself look foolish, you don't need
our help with that. If it was "retained on the web"
how come there is no link or record of it on our
site?
Just to further prove how far from reality Prozanski resides,
he also stated "...Kevin continued to deny any association
with the altered photo of me that appeared … and his accusation
that I was the person who fabricated it." Please
Floyd, show us where I accused you of fabricating the
picture. Another lie. Really Floyd, I doubt you have the creativity
or skill to come up with something like that.
So here's the deal Prozanski, our political action committee
will write a $5000.00 check to your reelection campaign if you
can provide proof of your claim that this image ever appeared
on our site or that it was created or contributed by anyone
from OFF to any other site. It's right here on the internet,
saved for all time.
Thousands of people get our alerts. If we did what this pathetic
liar accused us of, SOMEONE will be
able to provide documentation. Put up or shut up Floyd.
I presume that addresses that issue. Now let's respond
to some other things Prozanski has said.
Prozanski says "After my first e-mail, Kevin sent me
a message demanding that I apologize to him for stating that
he altered my picture and posted it on ammoland.com. He even
threatened to file an ethics complaint if I did not.Knowing
that my statements are factual, I sincerely had hoped that Kevin
would file his complaint. "
I never said anything in my email to Prozanski about "posting
on Ammoland". This is absurd. I don't even know if a person
can "post on Ammoland". Show us the email
Floyd. I am sure you have a copy. No wait, I
have a copy. What follows is the exact text of the email I sent
to Prozanski:
______________________________________________
06.08.11
Dear Senator Prozanski,
By now you have no doubt seen my response to the email you sent
out yesterday dealing with gun legislation.
Frankly, I have no problem with your accusations about my use
of “scare tactics” and “misinformation.”
My alerts are available for anyone to see anytime and I will
stand by their accuracy. However, in your email you made the
following statement: " Many of you have received information
from Kevin Starrett of Oregon Firearms Federation, who has used
scare tactics, misinformation and "photo shopped"
pictures to berate the bill or me.”This is false. No alerts
or other communication dealing with the pending bills, or you,
contained a photo, much less one that was “photo shopped”
of you.
For the record, I do not own Photo Shop and can assure you that
I have better things to do than “photo shop” images
of you.
Inasmuch as this false and bizarre accusation reflects directly
on my credibility and professionalism, I request that you correct
the record with all who received your first email. Out of respect
for your office and the reality that you and I will no doubt
be involved with each other on a professional basis I would
accept a simple correction and retraction. I believe this would
be preferable to any ethics complaint.
As you know, lobbyists are expected to abide by certain accepted
standards, I believe legislators should as well. Your accusation
is false and needs to be corrected.
Kevin Starrett
___________________________________________________
One note. After sending this email I did recall a web
page (not an alert) that dealt with bills sent to Prozanski's
committee. That page did include a photo of him, but as noted
and corrected here,
the image was only a copy of his legislative web page photo
and was not "photoshopped." The only change made it
was that it was reproduced in black and white.
In fact, I did contact the ethics commission. They informed
me that they would not consider any complaint unless if involved
a legislator illegally taking money. I can assure that had that
not been the case, a complaint would have been filed.
In the opening of his email Prozanski says "I believe
that it is important to communicate directly with folks, especially
as I try to set the record straight against someone spreading
misinformation about me."
This is, of course, the same accusation Prozanski has made in
the past, that I mislead and lie about him.
Prozanski continues to assert that I lie and mislead about
him and his record. But the problem for Prozanski is that
everything we write and distribute is available for anyone to
read and judge for themselves. In fact, any ten year old with
an internet connection can research everything we report and
learn for themselves if any of Prozanski's accusations have
any merit. It's interesting to note that for all the lies I
am accused of creating, Prozanski cannot provide a single example
of one. Not one. Really Floyd, with that crack staff of
yours who managed to find an altered photo of you on a website
OFF has nothing to do with, don't you think those well trained
legislative aides could find at least ONE example of anything
I have said which is not 100% accurate? (Hard to find good help
these days isn't it?) Really, I can provide numerous lies
from just one of his emails, and he can't provide a single one
from the dozens and dozens of alerts available to anyone on
our website. And this guys is a "municipal prosecutor"?
(Oh that would be traffic tickets right?)
Floyd's next big lie is that we use our email alerts to raise
money. Now, why Prozanski thinks we should not raise
money to fight liars like him may be explained by the fact that
100% of his income comes from feeding at the public trough both
in and out of session, but we welcome anyone to view our
legislative alerts and judge for themselves how often we use
them as a fund raising tool. Come on Floyd, they are right there
on our website, even if you cannot read and understand legislation,
you should be able to read alerts and then count. Go ahead.
Count them. Advocacy organizations raise money. We
do it far less than most. Really not important, but just another
demonstrable lie from Floyd.
As part of his attack on me Prozanski says "Since Kevin
did not give you all of the facts, here is a link to the bill
signed by the Governor: leg.state.or.us/11reg/measpdf/hb2700.dir/hb2792.en.pdf."
The bizarre thing is that the alert
he was attacking contained a link to the very bill he said
I was not giving the facts about! What is this guy talking about?
Why not just list the "facts" I did not provide? Because
he can't.
Prozanski goes on with this gem:"Kevin continues to
provide you with misinformation and has lost credibility with
many legislators. I suggest you consider getting the facts from
another gun rights organization. The NRA and the Oregon Gun
Owners are two respected advocacy groups that will provide you
with actual facts and that work positively with legislators.
Those groups are known to advocate effectively for gun rights
in Oregon."
Once again, Prozanski and his crack staff fail to provide
a single example of the "misinformation" while suggesting
you get your "facts" from NRA and "Oregon Gun
Owners."
While we often disagree with the NRA, here's a fact from them
that we share,Prozanski
received and "F" from NRA . It's pretty
hard to get an "F" from NRA, yet Prozanzki states
(presumably with a straight face) that he is "pro-gun."
"Oregon Gun Owners" is best known for drafting and
promoting a bill to ban private sales at gun shows and when
that failed they attempted to get a measure on the ballot
to do the same. That also failed. Of course, "Oregon
Gun Owners" endorsed Prozanski and anti-gun Senate
President Peter Courtney. "Oregon Gun Owners"
lobbyist could not even correctly say how long a concealed handgun
license was valid for when he testified before a House Committee.
No wonder Floyd wants you to get your information from them.
Prozanski's lies may well be too many to catalog, but one final
lie deserves attention. In his attack on me he says :"As
stated in my last e-mail, I am pro-gun. I support the Second
Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article I, Section 27,
of the Oregon Constitution. I personally own several firearms
and have owned guns since I was 15. I am also a member of my
party’s gun caucus."
Well Floyd, you can say you're an astronaut too, but that does
not make you one. Prozanski killed efforts to keep CHL info
private and turned a bill that clarified carry on motorcycles
and ATVs into a bill to ban self-defense firearms on school
property. He reversed a bill he himself carried and passed
through his committee CORRECTION.
IT PASSED THE FULL SENATE(twice) but clearly never read
or understood,to give persons a path for firearms rights restoration
and manipulated
hearings to prevent any meaningful testimony by pro-gun
advocates. Can you imagine if he were anti-gun?
Prozanski has proven himself to be not only a determined enemy
of liberty and the Second Amendment, but a provable liar.
This must be why he is the Senate Judiciary Chair.
Kevin Starrett
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