FAQ's. A Gun Owner's Guide
In The Beaver State.
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These are some of the questions weve received about
carrying your self defense tool in Oregon.
The questions are in bold type, just as we received them.
So, spelling, or other errors are the complete responsibility
of the writer.
Our answers are in italics. Any errors there should be blamed
on us.
Please insert all the usual disclaimers about this not being
legal advice here:
If you have a question about the law in Oregon, please write
us at "off (Insert the "@" sign here) oregonfirearms.org".To
help us reduce spam, please put something in your subject
line that identifies your question, like "concealed carry"
or "semi-auto ban" instead of just "question"
or "help." And remember, almost any question you
may have will be answered in the book "Understanding
Oregon's Gun Laws."
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Special Notice: We probably get more questions about non resident
licenses than anything else. (Well not anymore, see above
link.) Here's the lowdown.
If
you live in an adjoining state,
you may apply for a concealed handgun license. You
may apply in any county.
Sheriffs have complete discretion over whether or not to issue
these licenses and have shown no eagerness to do it.
Oregon law requires a "compelling business or other legitimate"
reason. However, contrary to what some sheriffs seem to think,
the law does not require that that business be in
the county of issue.
We have no information that would indicate certain sheriffs
are more willing to issue than are others. Our best advice
is to start dialing and see which Sheriff is most likely to
consider your needs legitimate. You will need to visit the
Sheriff's office to turn in your application because fingerprints
and photographs are required.
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I have been told that if I am stopped by a police
officer on a routine traffic stop I MUST immediately tell
him that I have a CHL and a gun. Is this true?
No. There is no law, statute, administrative rule or ordinance
that requires this. Many "instructors" tell their
students there is, or that it would be a "courtesy."
But it is NOT required. In fact, we have heard from many people
who DID tell police who stopped them that they had a CHL and
found themselves dealing with very hostile cops who considered
it a threatening gesture. ( Some states, like Ohio DO require
this. In fact in Ohio it's a felony not to. Just plain nuts.)
However, most police don't know what the law is and many
of them believe, mistakenly, that you must tell them. Those
police are wrong. To hear two Portland police officers discuss
this (right before the first officer on the audio told a person
who he stopped that he was going to have his license revoked)
click here. The two officers
on this audio don't know what they are talking about. But
the the first cop says that the person who he stopped gave
him "a lot of lip." That's because the person he
stopped knew more about the law than the cop did.
I've noticed signs at the Portland Airport that say "No
Firearms." There is no exception for license holders
noted. Is this legal?
Marv in Milwaukiee.
Good question Marv. The Port of Portland issued
an ordinance in 1996 saying "no guns, no exceptions."
This was ordinance 377-R (Of course, this does not apply if
you are legally traveling with a firearm and it's in your
checked baggage.)
This obviously was not a reaction to 9/11, since it was written
well before that.
The problem is, Oregon law very clearly PROHIBITS the Port
of Portland from enacting any such ordinance. When we contacted
the Chief of Police of the Port of Portland, Chief
Phil Klahn, and asked him (very politely) about this contradiction,
he had their lawyer,
Barbara Jacobsen call us back She left a voice message
telling us that she had given our name to the Department of
Homeland Security. (Insert joke about them here.)
After numerous attempts to get an answer, we finally received
a long letter from Jacobsen explaining why she believed the
Port had the right to create such an ordinance.
We then forwarded THAT letter to House Representative Wayne
Scott. He took it to "Legislative Counsel."
These are the lawyers for the legislature. They actually write
the laws the legislators request.
Their response
was pretty straightforward. In their opinion, the Port
of Portland may NOT enact any such ordinance.
Here's a direct quote from their opinion: "You have asked
whether the Port of Portland has the authority to enact regulations
prohibiting a person from carrying a firearm in the terminal
at the Portland International Airport. The short answer is
no."
We then forwarded their opinion to both Chief Klahn and Barbara
Jacobsen. The Chief had advised us to advise you (our supporters)
not to carry in the terminal. After reading the opinion of
Legislative Counsel, he replied once again that his officers
could cite license holders and then they could "have
their day in court." Attorney Jacobsen has not responded
at all. Your tax dollars at work.
So, as it stands, the law says you may carry in the terminal.
The Port of Portland says you can be arrested if you are obeying
the law. Legislative Counsel says the Port of Portland may
not enforce this ordinance, and the Port of Portland Police
say they don't care.
Hope this clears everything up.
I've looked through all the laws I can find, but
can't find an answer
to this question I have.
Say I'm driving out to the woods to do some target shooting
with some
semi-auto rifles. I load up the magazines at home and put
them in a
range bag. The rifles go on the back seat, sometimes in a
case,
sometimes not.
Is there any prohibition against that?
The reason I ask is I heard on another group that a person
in another
state was popped for carrying loaded magazines. Surely that's
not the
case in Oregon?
Anybody know?
Thanks!
Gene
There is no law against carrying loaded magazines. In fact,
Oregon has no law against carrying loaded rifles in your car.
Localities may restrict loaded carry of firearms by persons
without concealed handgun licenses, but only in public places,
which your car is not.
Is it illegal to have a silencer in Oregon. It
seems like I’ve seen rimfire silencers that were being
sold at gun shows in the past. However, after reading
the ORS it seems that this could be illegal after all.
I’d appreciate the full story on this issue. Thanks.
Steve
The full story is that silencers are regulated
by the Federal Government and require BATF approval. Oregon
does not ban the possession of silencers, IF, the person in
possession has the required federal approval.
Keep in mind, that in order to own one of these devices, you
need permission from you local chief law enforcement agent.
I was stopped by a police officer for speeding he
looked at my drivers licence and then asked me if I was carring
a hand gun I said yes it was in a case in the back seat he
then told me I was required by law when being stopped
by an officer to immediatley tell the officer I had a hand
gun in my car. Can you tell me anything about that law and
if he is right.
Thank You,
Randy
No he is not right. Nothing in Oregon law requires that
you volunteer information about guns you are carrying. Nor
are you required to volunteer that you have a concealed handgun
license. You must, of course, carry guns in a legal manner.
That means if you have a handgun in the car, you must have
a CHL, or the handgun must be either unconcealed, or "not
readily accessible."
Gentlemen,
If I have 6 rifles I would like to advertise for sale in the
newspaper or at my gun club would that be considered a gun
show? I was told that anywhere 4 or more guns were for sale
at one time constitutes a gun show. I live in Oregon.
Thankyou,
No. The law says "25 or more guns on site and available
for transfer." You're fine.
Hello,
I read in the hunting regulations manual (the one they give
out at Bi-Mart) that carrying a loaded firearm while riding
an ATV was illegal, I'm sorry I didn't remember the law quoted,
I could get it if you want.
What's the deal on this? I have a CHL, am I exempt?
Some people put ATV permits on there car / truck / SUV,
I'm thinking that it would then be illegal to carry a loaded
weapon in the vehicle?
Thanks.
Ben.
It is illegal to carry a loaded gun (long gun
or handgun) on an atv or a snowmobile. CHL holders ARE NOT
exempt. If you are carrying a bow, all arrows must be in a
quiver.
We attempted to deal with this in the 2005 session, but the
Senate refused to hear the bill that the House passed.
See here:
(The 11th bill down) or here::
It is a Class B traffic infraction. It would NOT apply to
your regular motor vehicle.
My co-worker recently found a pistol at a very popular
sporting goods store off of Johnson Cr. Exit off I-205 in
Clackamas, OR that he couldn't find in his resident state
of Washington, and the salesman there refused to sell it to
him outright because he was a non-resident. He instead
offered to sell it to him but would ship it to an FFL dealer
in Vancouver, WA where he could expect an additional fee.
Is this true or is this possibly a store policy? If
it is a state policy, would that include the sale to a law
enforcement officer as well or just civilians? Thanks.
Federal law prohibits the sale of handguns to non residents.
The only exception is when a person has a business in the
state where the purchase is being made, and even then that
happens rarely.
A dealer can sell a rifle to a person from another state under
some circumstances, but handguns must ALWAYS be shipped to
a dealer in the state in which the buyer lives.
There are some exceptions for law enforcement, but the gun
in question must be intended for use in the cops work.
HELLO,
In my county (Washington County) the sheriff's website states
that one of the requirements for a CHL is, "provide written
documentation which demonstrates that you have taken a handgun
safety course." I have become a member at a local handgun
range and have taken two courses so far. The classes were
Basic Handgun I and II. Do these qualify as the required class
for applying for the CHL? At my range there is also a Concealed
Weapon's permit class that is purely
academic which I intend to take but not for a couple of months
and I would like to get my CHL asap. If you could offer me
some advice, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
P.S. Keep up all of the good work!!!
If the class was taught by an NRA certified instructor,
or a certified law enforcement instructor they qualify.
Hey guys,
I had another quick question for you.
Here is the situation: I will be 21 in a couple of weeks and
want to purchase a handgun. Obviously I can't do this
until I'm 21 so if my father purchases one for me and gives
it to me as a gift, he doesn't have to register it under his
name or anything does he? I guess I want to clarify
that it is illegal to purchase a handgun if you are younger
than 21 but it is legal for someone who is less than 21 to
own a handgun. Am I correct?
What makes you think we’re all guys? (Maybe we
are, but never assume.)
It is legal to own a handgun if you are younger than 21(but
"over 18"). The prohibition is against purchase,
not possession.(FFL holders may not sell handguns or handgun
ammo to persons under 21)
As for "registration" understand that when a firearm
is purchased FROM A FEDERALLY LICENSED DEALER, there is a
de facto registration thanks to the "background check."
However, this does NOT apply to firearms obtained through
transfers from private parties. So, if the gun in question
was obtained through a private transfer that took place outside
of a legally defined "gun show" there is no registration
of any kind.
Go to the Oregon
Gun Laws link on our web site for the entire law.
I want to buy a gun without the dealer paperwork
and background check, since I value my privacy. But since
I have lost that freedom at Oregon gun shows what options
do I have for finding the kind of gun I am looking for?
First, congratulations in your decision to buy privately.
Every time a "registered" gun is privately sold,
that means one less gun in the confiscation database, and
one more reason why the gun grabbers should worry that their
dreams can never come true. A private gun purchase is a patriotic
step toward securing freedom.
Second, be assured that a private sale is perfectly legal,
as long as the buyer and seller are both Oregon residents
not prohibited from purchasing and owning firearms, and the
sale takes place in Oregon. The problem is that newspaper
want ads and gun range bulletin boards don't offer much of
a selection.
The solution is on the Internet. The major gun sale sites
have search tools that let you limit your search by location
(so you don't have to wade through 100 AR-15 listings to find
the three for sale in Oregon.) Although dealers also advertise
on these sites (and would not be able to offer a private sale)
the sites usually tell whether or not the seller is a dealer.
Here are some of the options:
1. Go to
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/search.cfm click "by
location" and enter "OR" on keywords line.
2. Go to
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/SearchForm.asp and select
Oregon at lower right (you will need to specify what type
of firearm you are looking for, instead of being able to browse
all the Oregon firearms.)
3. (A favorite) Go to
http://www.gunsamerica.com/bystate.cgi and click "Oregon."
This one normally has several hundred Oregon firearms for
sale at any time, with nearly half offered by private sellers
who are not FFL-dealers.
4. Try http://the56.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl
It won't have many options, but it's a site that deserves
to catch on, and it lets you post a "Wanted-To-Buy"
listing.
OFF,
I have an Indiana CCW. I am moving to Oregon. How can I find
out (or do you know) if I will need to go through the Oregon
classes when I get there,or can I simply pay the fee, or ????
Your response is greatly appreciated.
The requirement for an Oregon license is that you can
demonstrate that you have had some kind of training. This
can be something you took in the military or any class by
an NRA instructor of which handgun safety was a "component."
If your Indiana license did not require that, you will still
need to do it. If that's the case, let us know, we can often
expedite the process for you at no cost. You will need to
apply in the county in which you will be living. Although
the law is supposed to be uniform, each county handles
applications slightly differently.
Hi.
I have taken the firearms class to get my CCW permit. Pics
and fingerprints too.
My instructor mentioned in passing that once one recieves
their permit, one looses the right to carry openly.
I asked for information where I might find documentation supporting
that statement. He was unable togive me any info on that.
I asked the lady at the Sheriffs office if
she might know, but she was unaware of any law or regulation
pertaining to that question.
I was wondering if you were aware of anything to that effect.
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Kim
Kimberley,
The answer is no. You give up no right to carry openly when
you get a CHL..
Does a valid Washington State concealed pistol permit allow
concealed carry in Oregon? I have searched the internet but
have had no luck finding the answer. If you know where I could
find the information I would appreciate it.
No it does not.
Oregon allows you to apply for an Oregon license if you live
in a bordering state and can show a "compelling business
interest" or "other legitimate" reason. Some
sheriffs consider "self defense" sufficient.
The sheriffs have discretion which they don't have if you
live in Oregon. If you should choose to apply and meet the
criteria, remember you can apply to the sheriff of any county.
Some are a lot more friendly than others.
Where could I find info on the oregon laws regarding,
weither or not a person with a past felony conviction could
own or possess a black powder/muzzleloading rifle, or pistol.
Thanks in advance.
This should not be construed as legal advice, for that
you need to contact a lawyer, but below are quoted 2 sections
of Oregon law that seem to answer your question.
In the first quote (166.210) you see under section (2), the
definition of a "firearm." This would certainly
seem to include black powder guns.
In the second quote (166.250) you can see that felons are
denied possession of a "firearm." Since the definition
of a "firearm" seems to include black powder and
muzzle loaders, it does appear that those are prohibited as
well.
It's dumb, but most laws are.
166.210. As used in ORS 166.250 to 166.270, 166.281, 166.291
to 166.295 and 166.410 to 166.470:
(1) "Antique firearm" means:
(a) Any firearm, including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock,
percussion cap or similar type of ignition system, manufactured
in or before 1898; and
(b) Any replica of any firearm described in paragraph (a)
of this subsection if the replica:
(A) Is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional
centerfire fixed ammunition; or
(B) Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition
that is no longer manufactured in the United States and that
is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial
trade.
(2) "Firearm" means a weapon, by whatever name known,
which is designed to expel a projectile by the action of powder
and which is readily capable of use as a weapon.
166.250 Unlawful possession of firearms. (1) Except as
otherwise provided in this section or ORS 166.260, 166.270,
166.274, 166.291, 166.292 or 166.410 to 166.470, a person
commits the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm if the
person knowingly:
(a) Carries any firearm concealed upon the person;
(b) Possesses a handgun that is concealed and readily accessible
to the person within any vehicle; or
(c) Possesses a firearm and:
(A) Is under 18 years of age;
(B)(i) While a minor, was found to be within the jurisdiction
of the juvenile court for having committed an act which, if
committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor
involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470; and
(ii) Was discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile
court within four years prior to being charged under this
section;
(C) Has been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except
for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony ; D) Was
committed to the Department of Human Services under ORS 426.130;
or
(E) Was found to be mentally ill and subject to an order under
ORS 426.130 that the person be prohibited from purchasing
or possessing a firearm as a result of that mental illness.
iim going to to be moving from calif to oregon next year what
do i need to know about bringing my guns into your state?
what type of background checks does your state do?
There are NO background checks for guns you already
own. You can bring any conventional gun into Oregon with no
hassle and no paperwork. (If you own machine guns please contact
us for more info.)
If you buy a gun from a federally licensed dealer, there will
be the standard federal background check done through the
police state police. The police state police will keep a record
of your purchase as long as they can. Oregon law says they
can keep the info for 5 years. (If you think they'll destroy
the info after 5 years we have bridge we'd like to sell you.)
If you buy a gun at a gun show, the geniuses who vote in Oregon
have decided that you must also pass a background check even
if you are buying from a private collector. Of course, nothing
prevents you from finding a gun you want to buy from a collector
at a gun show and making the actual purchase across the street
at McDonalds. Oregon gun laws were written by and for idiots.
Welcome to our state.
Thank you for the information that you provided to
me about this
issue a couple months ago. However,I found this exception
in Oregon gunlaw that concerns me and I'm wondering if you
can clarify or give me an example of someone arrested for
carrying (licensed) on school property who was exonerated.
Here's the quote:
"166.370 Possession of firearm or dangerous weapon in
public
building or court facility; exceptions; discharging firearm
at school....
(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:
(a) A sheriff, police officer, other duly appointed peace
officers or a corrections officer while acting within the
scope of employment.
(b) A person summoned by a peace officer to assist in making
an arrest or preserving the peace, while the summoned person
is engaged in assisting the officer.
(c) An active or reserve member of the military forces of
this state or the United States, when engaged in the performance
of duty.
(d) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 and 166.292
to carry a concealed handgun.
(e) A person who is authorized by the officer or agency that
controls the public building to possess a firearm or dangerous
weapon in that public building.
(f) Possession of a firearm on school property if the firearm:
(A) Is possessed by a person who is not otherwise prohibited
from possessing the firearm; and
(B) Is unloaded and locked in a motor vehicle."
Doesn't Subsection (3...f...B) (because it is preceded by
the word AND) mean that I can only have my gun at a
school if I am "not otherwise prohibited" (not a
felon, have a valid CHL, etc.) AND the gun is unloaded and
locked in my car?
I don't understand how this means I can have a loaded gun
on my person in a school and not be in violation of Oregon
law. Can you please tell me that I am incorrect and how this
is legal? I want to be able to legally carry to a school,
but I can't get past this.
Awaiting your response.
Thank you.
If you look at subsection d youll
see it appears before fB. It stands alone. License holders
are exempt. Obviously this only applies to public
schools. Private schools may do as they wish.
Dear Oregon Firearms Federation.
I've scoured the Internet along with your website and links
with no results. Hopefully you can help. (Question) If you
are an Oregon resident,can you legally purchase an AR-15 in
the state Of Oregon. I could not find a list of banned weapons
for Oregon like the list our AG has here in California. Thank
you.
Oregon has no banned weapons. If you want to buy a
machine gun, silencer or what BATF calls any other weapon
(meaning non conventional firearms) you need Federal approval
as well as the approval of your local chief of police. But
other than that you can buy and own whatever you want.
I was recently referred to your website by some members of
GlockTalk.com when i asked a question regarding where CHL
holders could, and could not carry firearms.
I asked the question because some information that came with
my application for a CHL contained the following quote:
Possession of a Concealed Handgun License does not authorize
you to carry a firearm on any of the following properties:....Any
private business or private facility where a condition of
being on the premises or facility is that you not possess
a firearm.
I was referred to the ORS section 166 which makes no mention
or the business having the rights to exclude CHL holders.
After reading the sections thoroughly, i called up Washington
County Sheriffs CHL unit, and asked them to clarify for me
that it is indeed Oregon Law. The women at the Sheriff's office
told me to look at 166.173, that i would find that provision
there. I told her that the provision was for public buildings,
and she told me that it covers private business's too. I should
have brought up the point that 166.173 also states that CHL
are exempt from that statute, but i figured she really didn't
know what she was talking about.
I am writing you to see if you have heard this before, and
find out what i can do to find out the truth. I don't want
to cause too many waves until after i have my permit in hand
(still about 2-3 weeks out). But i would like to know where
i can, and cannot carry with a CHL.
Any help would be appreciated.
C.
Dear C,
Private property is private property.
The owner of the property can make it a condition of access
that you dress only in plaid or wear a bunny suit. (Fortunately,
this happens with relative infrequency.)
Thus, a restaurant, home or private hospital CAN tell you
you are not allowed in with a firearm.
This, however, then becomes a trespass issue, meaning if you
DO go somewhere private with a gun, they can ask you to leave.
If you don't, you are trespassing.
There is nothing else in the law dealing with this issue.
That being said, don't fall for all the other lies you may
be told about where you may and may not be with a gun.
For example, you cannot be barred from any school or school
grounds, no matter what anyone tells you.
You can be barred from courts, but you're free to wander the
halls of the Capitol with your (permitted) blaster beneath
your coat.
In fact, there is some indication that you are not even barred
from the Post Office if you are there for a "lawful purpose."
(Consult your attorney.)
As you know, every dirt bag bureaucrat and his brother is
trying to institute restrictions on carry.
That's why we're suing the city of Portland and have already
gotten the State Fair to back down on their "no guns"
policy. Expect more of this crap in the future.
As far as the private property is concerned, we (not being
lawyers) would NEVER suggest you do anything that would upset
the property owner.
We also would point out that you would probably feel REALLY,
REALLY stupid if your gun was in the car when you needed it
and why would anyone KNOW you had a gun if you didn't tell
them?
But that's just our opinion.
I was thinking about trying to get Oregon gun carry laws changed.
In Vermont, "It is lawful to carry a firearm openly or
concealed
provided the firearm is not carried with the intent or avowed
purpose of injuring a fellow man." You do not have to
get a permit to carry concealed.
Can you give me some ideas on how to go about this?
We introduced this legislation in '97 and '99.
In '97 we were OPPOSED by NRA and "Oregon Gun Owners."
Our bill
got a hearing and a vote in committee where it died on a 3
to 3 vote.
In '99 the "Gun Lobby" (having been beaten deaf
dumb and blind by us) did not openly oppose the bill, but
Kevin Mannix, who was in charge of the relevant committee,
killed it.
What needs to happen is simply to find a legislator who will
sponsor the bill and then go through the very ugly process
of forcing a vote in committee.
A letter to talk show host Lars Larson:
Just a question on concealed carry.
A fellow employee who is a Washington resident and has a permit
for that side of the river, recently took his class here and
applied for an Oregon permit through the Clackamas Sheriffs
office. He was denied based on the letter he submitted with
his application, stating one of the reasons he wanted the
permit was for self defense. I quote "self defense is
not a good enough reason".
I was under the impression that Oregon was a 'shall issue'
state, meaning that you get the permit if you apply as long
as you have done nothing that would exclude you from this
'right'.
It is a right isn't it? Something that any citizen would have
as long as they were law abiding?
Thanks for your insight and your show!
Lars forwarded your note to me.
If you are an Oregon resident and meet the statutory requirements
for a concealed handgun license, the sheriff must, in most
cases, issue a license.
However, if you are not a resident the sheriffs have total
discretion to approve or deny.
The law also requires that you have a "compelling business
interest" in Oregon.
In other words, if you're not sleeping with the sheriff, forget
it.
However, any county can issue the license, so your friend
might well be successful by applying in a county not totally
controlled by anti-rights radicals.
May I suggest starting in Douglas County.
OFF,
A short while back I read your report on "Guns in Schools".
Because of that, I was surprised when enclosed with my renewed
CHL there was a notice informing me of the federal and state
restrictions on carrying concealed handguns.
On the state list was schools.
After re-reading your article, then studying the Oregon Revised
Statutes (166.360, 166.370) I came to the conclusion that
this notice was incorrect. I plan on visiting with the Sheriff
elect Mike Winters (Jackson County) and discussing this notice
with him ASAP.
Here is the text of the notice:
NOTICE TO CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE HOLDERS
The following information identifies areas restricting the
concealment and carry of firearms under federal and state
laws. Restrictions are subject to change. It is recommended
to check with individual agencies to determine if any further
restrictions may apply or have changed.
FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS:
1. Elementary and Secondary Schools
A. Within 1000 feet surrounding the above schools except a
permanent resident living within the 1000 foot
surrounding area.
2. Airport property
3. Post offices
4. Federal Facilities owned or leased by the U.S. Government
5. Protected National Wilderness areas
6. Military Reservations
7. Indian Reservations
8. Federal Courthouses
9. Indian Gaming casinos
10. Endangered Species areas
If you have any questions regarding federal restrictions,
you can telephone the U.S. Federal Attorney's Office in Eugene
OR at 541-465-6771.
STATE RESTRICTIONS:
1. Courtroom, jury rooms, judge's chambers or the areas adjacent
thereto, to be determined by the presiding judge.
2. Schools
3. Posted private property
If you have any questions regarding state restrictions, you
should review Oregon Revised Statutes 166.360 and 166.370.
You may also contact your personal attorney for assistance.
Another issue is the third entry on the state list: Posted
private property. I could find nothing in the state statutes
about this.
I have yet to review all of the federal restrictions, but
outside of "federal property" I don't see how they
could apply.
Thank you for your effort to retain my right to bear arms,
Ed
Medford, OR
Ed,
The continued abuses and errors on the part of sheriff's around
Oregon never stops amazing me.
I would very much like a hard copy of the notice you received
from the sheriff. If it's not too much trouble, by mail at
box 556 Canby OR 97013 or fax at 503-263-3708.
NOTHING in Oregon law restricts carry in schools by license
holders.
This is just a flat out falsehood. If that law existed we
would not have had the ugly fight we did in the last session
when they tried, and failed, to pass just such a law.
As for a the Federal law, you know, I just wish these clowns
could, or would, read.
Federal law DOES prohibit guns on school property. BUT, it
again, specifically exempts license holders.
As for private property, my house is private property. Are
you banned here?
The only time you're banned is if the property that is posted
specifically bans concealed carry, as we are seeing with more
and more hospitals. I'm not even sure that's legal because
I don't know which hospitals are truly "private"
property.
As you know, we're fighting several different abuses around
the state but I'd be happy to add your sheriff to the list
if I can get the documentation.
Thanks for the heads up.
Ive been told by my sheriff that I have to live
in my county for six months before I can apply for a concealed
handgun license. Is this true?
Yes, this is true if your are a legal resident
alien. Otherwise its another crock. Once again
what we are facing are law enforcement agents who cannot read
the law. Heres what it says:
166.291 Issuance of concealed handgun license; application;
fees; liability. (1) The sheriff of a county, upon a persons
application for an Oregon concealed handgun license, upon
receipt of the appropriate fees and after compliance with
the procedures set out in this section, shall issue the person
a concealed handgun license if the person:
(a)(A) Is a citizen of the United States; or
(B) Is a legal resident alien who can document continuous
residency in the county for at least six months and has declared
in writing to the Immigration and Naturalization Service the
intent to acquire citizenship status and can present proof
of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of application
for the license;
Ok, thats A and B. Two different things. Oddly when
they first wrote this section they didnt make that distinction.
We complained and said this would be mistakenly applied to
US Citizens. Typically, the gun lobby disagreed.
Fortunately, the committee hearing the bill agreed with us
and made it as clear as they could. But still these boneheads
cant get it right.
We have gotten Marion County to back down on this. Well
go after the others one at a time.
OFF: A friend of mine who has Concealed handgun
license in Oregon was told that under state law he could not
carry his handgun into a tavern even with the concealed permit.
He was told by the owner of the tavern that this law came
into effect on October 1 of this year. Is there any truth
to this, or is someone trying to blow smoke? The party that
told him this said they had a conversation with one of the
Police officers in Sandy and
that the police officer told them this. I would appreciate
any clarification you can give me on this.
Thank you,
Ed
Ed,
This is utter nonsense. There is nothing in Oregon law that
prohibits concealed carry in taverns. There is also nothing
in Oregon history to indicate that this is a problem.
By the way, some counties are also telling license holders
and applicants they cant carry in churches. This too
is bogus.
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